Joyce Bonelli doesn’t hold back...with anything. If you follow the makeup artist—who counts everyone from Nicki Minaj to Salma Hayek, Emily Ratajkowski, and the Kardashians as clients—designer, and soon-to-be beauty mogul (she’s launching a 58 SKU beauty collection!), you probably already know that, but even we were surprised when we arrived at her Hollywood Hills home and she opened the door wearing a nude leotard, her five-month-old twins wrapped under each arm.

And before we knew it, we were buckling Bonelli into a full-body Zana Bayne harness for her portraits, talking about crazy birthday gifts (“I got Kourtney [Kardashian] nipple clamps and a magic wand dildo set,” she giggled) and baking rainbow-sprinkled cupcakes with her son Zeplin (something they love to do as a family). We loved every minute of it. But that wasn’t all; everything she pulled out of her closet—leopard heels, of which we counted at least 10 pairs, knee-high Cinderella Yeezy Season 4 boots, lace-up leather pants (amongst practically everything else that makes up her wardrobe) from her and fiancé Ben Taverniti’s clothing line UNRAVEL, hand-painted Chanel bags (gifted by Kim), and a Maison Michel kitty ear headband—was emblematic of how she’ll never take fashion too seriously. Even when she’s jetting off to fashion week, running a fashion brand, and—wait for it—launching a massive beauty collection (psst, we have more on this coming soon), she’ll laugh her whole way through it.